Any chance of more detailed stories?

[Gavinfox]

Is there any chance of there being filler comics for the main vixine series, yaknow, so things flow more easily (ie, making those four-page comics into fourteen page comics with an actual plot, and have them be black and white for the meantime, so we can get an idea of the backstory and stuff more easily?)

Why not do something along the lines of the detail in some of the series in supermegatopia? I really find the lack of detail (and the lack of occassional explicit sex -- you had *plenty* of chances to get into a sex scene without detracting from the plot) a very large letdown... also, how about written stories? The content is really sparse.

[Ronald]

[Serena]

hello!
Well, I can't talk for the Vixine main site, for that ask to Martin, but on VixineTales.com I'm writing a long plot, filled with adventure, explicit sex of course, and some humor too.
It's early now, but I hope people like it and to get some feedbacks about it when the plot will be developed a bit more

bye
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[Gavinfox]

I'm going to post some more of my email, seeing as how I just did a small outline earlier... I hope it generates some interesting discussion!

I was chatting, via e-mail with Ronald, and it got to the point where he asked me,

Please please- we need to know what you would like to see more of... this is your chance to help us shape the new comic series!
How can we make vixine comics be better for you the reader!?

Here is my reply:

Well, as far as story arcs... wouldn't the most relevant story be how the team got together? I think that actual *plot* would be interesting... every page needn't have a punchline, as long as the comics keep laughs coming fairly regularly... Why not do some sort of comic where one doesnt feel like they have been dropped into the middle of a story? Do you guys have any major backstories written in text form? Any major outlines or ideas of what is going on in the universe? My suggestion would be starting from the beginning... also, do you guys look at the popular furry comics at the Belfry? I usually go to [moderator edit: link removed] and set it to "furry" and "most read", and look at comics that seem interesting... the detail that Sabrina Online goes into seems like a good idea, seeing as how this is a pay site... and Tales of the Questor is one of my favorites, s howing how a comic with a similar artistic style to your Vixine comics can be done with a large plot and backstory, giving the reader a reason to care about the characters.. And a comic that seems to be in EXACTLY the same vein as Vixine, except it is FREE, is Supermegatopia. Actually, Supermegatopia is a webpage of an artist that does many comics, and the comic within that page that I think shows more of how Vixine should perhaps be set up is "Crushed"
http://www.supermegatopia.com/crushed/index.htm

I hope you look at the comics there, at that format, as I think Furs might respond better to that...

One thing that peeved me, and here is a good example of how this happens, is that going from comic, sayyy, four to comic five, you have no idea of how the characters got out of town, where they are going, why it is cold, what quest they are on, etc. etc.... give the characters a *quest*, and have laughs come every so often.. again, like in Crushed...

[Serena]

[Gavinfox]

Yea, I would gladly keep on paying for something along the lines in storyline development and exposition of Supermegatopia... as long as it had continuous updates, some fun extras, and scenes that are far more explicit than SMT...

One thing that I'm interested in seeing, other than just the "comics" are some pages that show the making of the comics... and show lots of extra sketches and failed storyline ideas... maybe some of the storyboards. You guys do storyboards, right?

[Gavinfox]

Will you guys ever have more than one comic on one site? I mean, running at the same time? We'll have to pay for Vixine and Vixine Tales seperately, right? Eeeek... even at a discount, EEK! ... uhm...
... If you guys do ever decide to run minor series alongside major ones, why not also run a comic that contains more bisexual and homoerotic actions, and more male-centered teases? The furry community is often quite... diverse among this, and I know at least two posters on this forum are bi. I would LOVE to see more cute males in the comic, especially in some M/F/M (or M/M/F, depending on the order of the sandwich...) threesomes and such... Do any of you artists feel up to tackling the subject?

[Ronald]

[Gavinfox]

Well, why don't you guys post that you are taking storyline and content suggestions at fur.artwork.erotica? And in order to make it not a spam post, actually post some content, including some of the stuff you have for the free sample section, and maybe add some of the sketches in the Pinup gallery too? Make it a contest, and say that the top, ohh, three people who give the best suggestions can get a free six month membership?

[Ronald]

The Contest Idea sounds like a good suggestion. I will have to think about how to work that into why we are planning right now....

Thats a good suggestion! It certainly will also help with the site promotion and increase participation on our messageboard by non fans as well as fans.
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[Gavinfox]

Here's an idea -- why don't you put up a live Vixine chat room? Occasionally, you guys can play some of the characters, answer peoples questions -- even DM one of your Vixine RPG's! Wouldn't that be awesome? Just make a chat room (I'm talking about for the RPG, the normal one wouldn't be set up like this) where the moderator has to approve all of the incoming messages for them to be displayed, and DM the chat that way, with you guys being NPC's and telling the story... you can even set it up so that, if the people come up with good characters, they can be shown in the comic! Hell, after the RPG is done, you guys can maybe clean it up a little and turn it into a short story!

[Gavinfox]

Here's another idea -- why not put up some interesting, "low content" information pages at places where furries lurk? I mean, have a VCL page with some art on it that links to here, talk to the owners of some of the furry search engines to get yourself listed in those, add this page to some of the furry web rings (edit: I see you have done some of them... there are more you could do, just google search for them), put up a VCL webpage with a little bit of art that links to here, things like that! And add a bit more "generic" furry content, like links to other normalish furry pages and that FAQ of what a furry is.. also, get some art on some other pages, like Orlando Furry Archives, of course, VCL and Furnation, but why not Elfwood and Pureyiff as well? And as far as selling things, why not sell some stuff on http://www.furbid.ws/ and http://www.furbid.ws/? Instead of just being a bit of a "pay to get to the good stuff" page, put up some things that get you links and clickthroughs and some content like a *normal* furry webpage.. and also, why dont you guys put together a CD of art to sell as well? And go to some Cons... get really into the furry *community*.. and set up your webpage to be in the furry community as well... ie, linking to the major webpages and having them link to you...

About going to Cons, Ronald might be able to make some, being in Southern California...

Perhaps Confurence, Further Confusion, Califur... *pause* Oh wait, Confurence is no more... but you can STILL be a part of Southern California Furry culture! You can *still* network... there are Yahoo groups for Southern California furs, they regularly attend minimeets and gatherings. It would take but a few questions, a few people to network with, in order to find ways to really get into the culture... plus, it would help your social life!

Ooh! and the people in Europe could maybe attend a Eurofurence, get an art table, and do lots of art and sketches for everyone! Also, why aren't you guys accepting paid commissions on your webpage and advertising as such? The url for Eurofurence is http://www.eurofurence.org/EF10/ And here are some other Europe furry meets:

http://mmc.furcon.de/
http://www.francefurs.org/franfurence_en.html

OOhh! another Idea: why dont you guys make a printed out comic *book* ... a real, sellable, comic *book* that has many pages and follows a single storyline, and sell it online and at cons and stuff... lots of furs do that, and these things are really popular... just check out the stuff at Rabbit Valley if you dont know what I'm talking about!

....hmmm.... I have been visiting Federico and Serena's webpages... they seem to have more art content than here oftentimes... why don't you guys put up well-marked, easy to find galleries where they can put everything that they ink to paper? Yaknow, give them free reign, so we can have more art content here... not just the "pinups" gallery, which isn't the most user-friendly (and has small thumbnails), but a gallery for each, with different sections..

Also, your list of links could use some updates -- why not put it in a page of its own, and show it with a leaf button like the others? I also think the Sample page should have more stuff on it -- maybe a sample from each part, including some pinups, some of the writing of sexy stories about vixine (just get it to the exciting part, and post the whole thing on the inside...), and some non-adult art.. make the adult stuff and the deep content to be paid for, but give more *varieties* of content in the sample, to make you not just a "one trick pony", as it were..

[Gavinfox]

And there are a LOT of kinks that you can have in a gallery webpage that are furry-based...

Lessee... there are vore kinks, plushie kinks, zoophile kinks, inflation kinks, transformation kinks, macro and micro kinks, unbirthing kinks, etc. etc.

[Gavinfox]

Wow... moderators have replied to lots of things, but no one seems to be replying to these ideas. Eeep!

Oh, and, Bump!

[Martin]

Well, Gavin...
Can't talk for the others, but I don't find plushophilia and zoophilia to my taste; as for vore, well, let's just say I'm opposed to it (I never thought the concept of slow destruction through digestive acid as very arousing, or even just likeable). Unbirthing and macro, well... let me answer with just a single word: "dragons". When one deals with a lover twenty times his own size, accidents happen
Transformation? can do. Micro? Ditto. As for inflation, well, I never thought about it...
You see, if one doesn't get a topic to heart, he better not even try to do it, or it'll come out pathetic.

About your suggestions before the "kinks" one...
Speaking of the cons, I WISH I could attend a furcon, but as fate wills I have a day job, and I can't just up and leave.
As for the suggestions for the extra content, I can only speak for myself when I say I'll do what I can, but Vixine is a team project, and team projects require coordination and efforts. We'll see what comes up... Don't misunderstand me, the suggestions are quite valid; but work of this kind, let me reiterate it, requires A LOT of joint effort and coordination.

And finally, speaking of the comic... a true, real comic... Who knows?

[Gavinfox]

[Gavinfox]

This has been Bumped! Bumped, you hear? Bumped!

[Martin]

You don't say?

[Gavinfox]

[Martin]

Just a question, Gavin... in a furry world, wouldn't a druid ALWAYS enjoy sex in an animal form? I mean, it's not like he or she has any other choice... (if you wonder, no, there is no such thing as a mammal or reptile without arms and culture on Auris)

As for the rest, we'll have to wait and see... (by the way, sorry to blow your bubble, but the spell you were referring to was built to allow a small person and a large one to mate without the small one being torn to shreds or crippled for life... there is no element to protect someone inside the stomach from the stench, although the spell does a good work with the acid. Okay, all together now: EEEEEWWWWW!)

Oh, sorry for taking my time in answering, but I was wondering what to say without repeating what I had stated in my previous.

[Gavinfox]

Odd. Thought there were two spells. Hmmm... Maybe I just got confused... erf... sowwy... I didn't know that there weren't any nonmorphics there. Heh... Whoopsie...

Now come on! This is D20! There are ways to go about modifying spells and such? Wouldn't someone want to work on it?

Hmmm.... "As a side effect, the target can now swallow whole creatures and objects up to two sizes smaller than him or her; the swallowed gets no damage (it’s not the purpose of the spell), and the swallower automatically regurgitates the swallowed at the end of the spell (not a pretty sight)"

Well, there are *mundane* ways to temporarily stop someone's sense of taste or smell.... it should be interesting to see what can be done...

Hmmm, what forms *can* a druid turn into, though? I have been looking at the list... maybe something from the animal companions list? How about a kefsey or a sprinter? Would a druid of the right type be able to transform into a flightless bird of one of those sorts? I guess you are completely getting rid of the transformation abilities of a druid otherwise then, right? Isn't that a bit of a nerf?

I was just thinking about these things... sorry, forgive my ponderings!

[Martin]

[Gavinfox]

I didn't know the druid's mentality turned into that of the animal. Sorry, I'm a bit rusty on D20 (well, scratch that, having never played a pen and paper rpg in my life, ahhh, this is a bit new to me).

Well, I was trying to seperate the possible zoo-kink and the vore-kink into two seperate categories. I now no longer really care about seeing them or whatever in the story--just figuring out *how* they could be done is fun!

A question, in normal D20, when a druid transforms into a wolf or a bear or whatever, don't they retain their normal intelligence? If so, why is this changed in Auris?

Also, what character-playable classes and species would be two size classes apart, and not be too stupid because of species or too hostile to each other? What spells are there to change size class?

[Martin]

[Gavinfox]

Hmmm... are you *quite sure* that the instinct would change to the point where they wouldnt want to? After all, if an animal is in heat, an animal is in heat.. and if the person in question has _already_ fallen in love with someone, than that will carry through to the animal... really, especially in domesticated environments, quads sometimes _do_ fall in love with bipeds... it would make an interesting plot... some female druid/wizard comes into heat, and to try and get out of it, tries to change to a creature that has it's heat at a different time... and it *doesnt work*... so now this bird NEEDS something, oh, this could be _comedy_...

[Martin]

Sure, that would be a good plot, IF the anthros on Auris ever got in heat... Sadly, that's not the case; the only ones who still have something resembling Heat are the she-hordes of Duh... and when that happens what little grey matter still works in their tiny brains goes blooey, as they go on a male-nabbing rampage. They call it "the time of mating". Males in the nearby territories call it "Oh heck!", just before running for their life.

[Gavinfox]

Dangit! Hmmm.... I'll have to think of something else... maybe just someone who has been transformed into a bird by an angry wizard that *made sure* it would take more than normal to transform back, and also made sure that the person kept the one specific instinct of still wanting "normal" humanoid mates... and now there is this bird/person who hasnt gotten properly laid in _months_....

[Martin]

Well, probably the situation would range from "get the feathered freak off me" answers (in the case of tiny and small birds) to full-blown panic (in the case of Kefsey roosters and other king-size birds) to "what the hey do you think you're doing?" (in case the polymorphed fella approached an Harpy, who - despite being feathered, winged and able to speak to songbirds - is still a mammal)...
After all, unless the attraction is mutual, the thing sounds like a no can do...

[Gavinfox]

*revisiting an old topic*

Well, I would wanna see a polymorphed compatable-sized bird with a harpy... that sounds like it would work... maybe he could work on her, and she starts out as seeing him as just cute, until such point where they eventually get to play a little and even, after a bit, cause she was always closet curious about this--try things that no known person on Auris has tried before!!